{"id":16693,"date":"2017-10-23T10:01:19","date_gmt":"2017-10-23T08:01:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.redanalysis.org\/?p=16693"},"modified":"2021-10-01T19:10:14","modified_gmt":"2021-10-01T17:10:14","slug":"signal-deux-regionsitale-vote-haut-autonomie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2017\/10\/23\/signal-two-regions-italy-vote-heavily-autonomy\/","title":{"rendered":"Signal : Deux r\u00e9gions d'Italie votent massivement en faveur de l'autonomie"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: justify; background-color: #f6f5f5; border-top: 3px solid #ce0022; border-bottom: 3px solid #ce0022; padding: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0em; margin-bottom: 20px;\">\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Impact sur les questions<br \/>\n<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #f4a341;\">\u00a0<\/span>Italie, Lombardie et V\u00e9n\u00e9tie : vers l'autonomie ?<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?<\/span><\/strong> La fin d'une nation italienne ?<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?<\/span>\u00a0<\/strong>L'avenir de l'\u00c9tat italien ?<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?<\/span><\/strong> La r\u00e9action du Sud de l'Italie ?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u279a\u279a<\/span><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #f4ce42;\">\u2781\u00a0<\/span>Des changements profonds pour les nations et leur \u00c9tat moderne, et les \"d\u00e9mocraties lib\u00e9rales\", au sein de l'UE... et dans le monde (grande incertitude)<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?<\/span><\/strong> La structure (y compris le personnel) et la gouvernance de l'UE doivent changer (grande incertitude)<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #f4a341;\">\u2782\u00a0<\/span> Les nouvelles politiques et le changement climatique (forte incertitude)<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">?<\/span><\/strong> Les nouvelles politiques et les puissances dominantes (\u00c9tats-Unis, Chine, Russie)(grande incertitude)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #4159f4;\">Avertissement (Opportunit\u00e9)\u00a0<\/span>- L'occasion de planifier l'avenir de l'UE et de ses \u00c9tats membres, ainsi que du monde entier ?<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Avertissement (Opportunit\u00e9)<\/span> - Possibilit\u00e9 de se d\u00e9barrasser des structures obsol\u00e8tes et de travailler \u00e0 l'\u00e9mergence de nouvelles structures adapt\u00e9es<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Deux r\u00e9gions d'Italie, \u00e0 savoir la Lombardie (capitale Milan) et la V\u00e9n\u00e9tie (capitale Venise) ont vot\u00e9 massivement pour l'autonomie au sein de l'Italie le 22 octobre 2017. Bien que seuls 40% et 57% de citoyens aient vot\u00e9, le vote pour l'autonomie a \u00e9t\u00e9 massif pour les deux, au-dessus de 95% (comptages pr\u00e9liminaires).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ces deux r\u00e9gions repr\u00e9sentent respectivement 20% et 10% de l'\u00e9conomie italienne, et veulent profiter des r\u00e9f\u00e9rendums pour demander \u00e0 l'Italie d'avoir davantage son mot \u00e0 dire sur leur gouvernance, voire leur autonomie, non seulement en termes d'imp\u00f4ts et de services publics, mais aussi de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, y compris en mati\u00e8re d'immigration.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull alignright\"><p>Pour les signaux pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents et autres, consultez le<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/categorie\/produits-et-services\/surveillance-et-alerte\/tableau-danalyse-de-lhorizon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tableau d'analyse Horizon<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Comme nous l'avons soulign\u00e9 <a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2017\/10\/10\/signal-relations-politiques-espagne-en-suite-catalogne-potentiel-ind%c3%a9pendance-d%c3%a9claration\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment<\/a>L'impact de l'existence et de la dynamique tr\u00e8s politique de l'Union europ\u00e9enne commence \u00e0 se faire sentir en termes de destruction ou, \u00e0 tout le moins, d'affaiblissement de l'\u00c9tat moderne et de l'un de ses enfants, les nations dans leurs fronti\u00e8res actuelles.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Si l'on consid\u00e8re \u00e9galement la Catalogne (voir les signaux correspondants dans le\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/categorie\/produits-et-services\/surveillance-et-alerte\/tableau-danalyse-de-lhorizon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tableau d'analyse Horizon<\/a>), nous commen\u00e7ons \u00e0 voir se dessiner les contours de l'id\u00e9ologie et de la mani\u00e8re dont les nouvelles \"communaut\u00e9s imagin\u00e9es\", pour reprendre le concept de Benedict Anderson, se d\u00e9finissent. Il semblerait que nous assistions \u00e0 un m\u00e9lange entre l'id\u00e9ologie ploutocratique (les profits et la richesse mat\u00e9rielle sont primordiaux) promue depuis au moins la fin de la guerre froide, un retour aux anciennes entit\u00e9s r\u00e9gionales historiquement construites, renforc\u00e9es par des r\u00e9cits \"nationalistes\", avec un retour \u00e0 une froide perspective d'\"int\u00e9r\u00eat national\", red\u00e9finie le long des nouvelles fronti\u00e8res.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 plus court terme et directement, il faut surveiller la mani\u00e8re dont non seulement l'\u00c9tat italien mais aussi les autres r\u00e9gions les plus pauvres vont r\u00e9agir.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull alignright\"><p>Liens connexes<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2011\/10\/30\/launching-the-chronicles-of-everstate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Les chroniques d'Everstate : Pr\u00e9voir l'avenir de l'\u00c9tat moderne<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2013\/03\/18\/a-road-to-hell-reducing-public-expenditures-when-natural-catastrophes-rise\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Une route vers l'enfer ? Changement climatique et d\u00e9ficit public<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/categorie\/la-nouvelle-route-de-la-soie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">La nouvelle route de la soie<\/a>\u00a0S\u00e9rie<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/categorie\/questions-degalite-entre-hommes-et-femmes-2\/climate-change-security\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Environnement et g\u00e9opolitique<\/a> S\u00e9rie<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">La question doit \u00eatre gard\u00e9e \u00e0 l'\u0153il car les cons\u00e9quences sont nombreuses. Elle aura probablement un impact non seulement sur l'Union europ\u00e9enne en tant qu'institution et en tant qu'organe directeur, mais aussi sur l'euro et sur les autres peuples europ\u00e9ens. \u00c0 un niveau plus profond, c'est l'\u00c9tat-nation tr\u00e8s moderne et sa nation qui sont \u00e9galement en train de se transformer. On peut se demander en particulier comment les multiples menaces, au premier rang desquelles l'impact du changement climatique, peuvent \u00eatre trait\u00e9es par le nouveau r\u00e9seau d'institutions politiques qui \u00e9merge. En termes de politique \u00e9trang\u00e8re et de relations internationales, comment ces politiques vont-elles se comporter face \u00e0 la Chine, \u00e0 son pouvoir \u00e9tatique toujours consolid\u00e9, \u00e0 son initiative \"Une ceinture, une route\" et \u00e0 son secteur des entreprises g\u00e9antes en d\u00e9veloppement, comme dans le domaine num\u00e9rique, \u00e0 une Russie de plus en plus influente ou \u00e0 une Am\u00e9rique incertaine mais qui tente de r\u00e9affirmer sa domination. \u00c0 cet \u00e9gard, pour les nouvelles politiques et entit\u00e9s europ\u00e9ennes, nous avons par exemple les probl\u00e8mes de traiter de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et de la d\u00e9fense en consid\u00e9rant l'OTAN, ou de g\u00e9rer le r\u00e9gime d'intimidation des sanctions am\u00e9ricaines.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nous assistons probablement \u00e0 la lente \u00e9laboration du nouveau mod\u00e8le socio-politique qui sous-tendra notre futur ordre politique, comme nous l'avons sugg\u00e9r\u00e9 lorsque nous avons mis l'avenir de l'\u00c9tat-nation (et donc des \"d\u00e9mocraties lib\u00e9rales\") sous surveillance.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"embedly-card\">\n<h4><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-europe-41712263\">Les r\u00e9gions italiennes votent pour plus d'autonomie<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>Deux des r\u00e9gions les plus riches du nord de l'Italie organisent des r\u00e9f\u00e9rendums pour demander aux \u00e9lecteurs s'ils veulent plus d'autonomie. La Lombardie, qui abrite la capitale financi\u00e8re de l'Italie, Milan, et la r\u00e9gion de la V\u00e9n\u00e9tie autour de Venise repr\u00e9sentent ensemble environ 30% de richesse nationale.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/cdn.embedly.com\/widgets\/platform.js\" charset=\"UTF-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"embedly-card\">\n<h4><a href=\"https:\/\/www.japantimes.co.jp\/news\/2017\/10\/23\/world\/politics-diplomacy-world\/italys-two-richest-regions-seek-powers-rome-nonbinding-referendums\/#.We2OxWKCw6g\">Les deux r\u00e9gions les plus riches d'Italie cherchent \u00e0 obtenir plus de pouvoirs de Rome dans le cadre de r\u00e9f\u00e9rendums non contraignants | The Japan Times<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>Les \u00e9lecteurs des r\u00e9gions riches du nord de l'Italie, la Lombardie et la V\u00e9n\u00e9tie, ont d\u00e9cid\u00e9 dimanche s'ils voulaient obtenir une plus grande autonomie par rapport \u00e0 Rome, en suivant la vague d'autod\u00e9termination qui balaie la politique mondiale, surtout en Catalogne.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/cdn.embedly.com\/widgets\/platform.js\" charset=\"UTF-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Image en vedette : Domaine public - Italie du Nord, 1796 (pour les campagnes de 1796-1805), <em>L'atlas historique<\/em> par William R. Shepherd, 1926<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Impact sur les questions ?  Italie, Lombardie et V\u00e9n\u00e9tie : vers l'autonomie ? ? La fin d'une nation italienne ? ? L'avenir de l'\u00c9tat italien ? ? La r\u00e9action du Sud italien ? \u279a\u279a \u2781 De profonds changements pour les nations et leur \u00c9tat moderne, et les \"d\u00e9mocraties lib\u00e9rales\", au sein de l'UE... et dans le monde (forte incertitude) ? La structure (y compris le personnel) et la gouvernance de l'UE doivent .... <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2017\/10\/23\/signal-two-regions-italy-vote-heavily-autonomy\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture <span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> \" Signal : Deux r\u00e9gions d'Italie votent massivement en faveur de l'autonomie \"<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":16696,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2502,2544,1583,1604],"tags":[2560,2549],"class_list":["post-16693","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-europe","category-horizon-scanning-board","category-analysis-the-future-of-the-modern-state","category-war","tag-open-access","tag-signal","entry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Signal: Two Regions in Italy Vote Heavily for Autonomy &#8226; The Red Team Analysis Society<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/redanalysis.org\/fr\/2017\/10\/23\/signal-deux-regionsitale-vote-haut-autonomie\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Signal: Two Regions in Italy Vote Heavily for Autonomy &#8226; The Red Team Analysis Society\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Impact on Issues ?\u00a0\u00a0Italy, Lombardy and Veneto: towards autonomy? ? 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